S&D E39: Sanctions, Crypto and the Enforcement Gap
Jason Sandoval speaks with Dr Jessica Davis, former analyst for FINTRAC and the Center for Strategic and International Studies (CSIS), about what happens between spotting illicit crypto and actually seizing it. Drawing on her years inside Canadian intelligence, Jessica explains where cases stall after detection, why the money only tells part of the story, and what a win looks like when crypto can move in minutes.

Jason Sandoval speaks with Dr Jessica Davis, former analyst for FINTRAC and the Center for Strategic and International Studies (CSIS), about what happens between spotting illicit crypto and actually seizing it. Drawing on her years inside Canadian intelligence, Jessica explains where cases stall after detection, why the money only tells part of the story, and what a win looks like when crypto can move in minutes.
⏱️ Timestamps
05:15 – watching versus seizing
09:50 – three state playbooks for crypto
16:30 – how criminal liquidity helped states
18:40 – FINTRAC’s mandate and OTC cash-out desks
31:45 – financial intelligence and intent
40:50 – what counterterrorist financing achieves
44:30 – timely disruption and the speed of money
👤 About Our Guest
Dr Jessica Davis is President and Principal Consultant at Insight Threat Intelligence, researching how Iran, Russia, North Korea, China and Venezuela use crypto to evade sanctions. She spent 17 years in Canadian security and intelligence, including at FINTRAC and as a threat financing analyst at CSIS, and is the author of Illicit Money.
🔑 Key Takeaways
Watching and Seizing Work Together
Every disruption displaces a network, and following what comes next reveals where it goes.
Detection Is Not the Bottleneck
Suspicious crypto activity is often flagged, but without dedicated investigators on the receiving end, disclosures rarely become seizures.
Integrate the Financial Investigation
The money only makes sense alongside the human and technical intelligence, not in a parallel workstream.
Money Reveals Intent
Financial intelligence can distinguish between people who plan to act and those who only talk.
Smaller Flows Are Real Wins
Reducing the money available for terrorism and sanctions evasion is a success in its own right.
📚 Resources Mentioned
- Jessica Davis on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/jmdottawa
- Insight Threat Intelligence: https://www.insightthreatintel.com
- Illicit Money: Financing Terrorism in the Twenty-First Century by Jessica Davis: https://amzn.eu/d/0feNbpsL
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